Sarah McSilk and the few remaining Nattering Nabobs; Ignoring irrelevant comments. Sarah McSilk says; "Dell, for once and for all - if you continue to refer to digital images as 'film', you make yourself look like a fool who has no concept of the matter at hand. Secondly, your conclusion is known to be flawed, and holds no water. The spots ypou pick out have not once appeared at the proper coordinates. Your spots are the equivalent of pointing to New York City on a map of North America, and calling it Houston." "No, the strategy that you've taken is to pick any spot, anywhere, that randomly appears on any single frame, at any given time, and call it 'Planet X'. Not once have you provided a set of images that show movement between frames, nor have you shown the same object at different coordinates with the images taken of the same coordinates on different days." JWD 1) Oh really !! Proper coordinates? http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword03m.htm Plotted course? Movement between frames? Nov 11 2002 Same coordinates / different days? 2) The use of the word "film" may be archaic to you young pups, but it has meaning to us older ones. That it ruffles your feathers indicates a stress problem on your part ;o) I do much prefer the opportunities with digital analysis compared to old "film" analysis. Sarah McSilk says; "According to Nancy, this object is magnitude 11 or brighter, by human observation. You call that low intensity? The spots of noise you've pointed to are not diffuse by any recognizable translation of the word. A 20 minute CCD image will show objects down to magnitude 20, and will show the objects consistently from frame to frame. Fast objects will streak while stars remain round on single images, slow moving objects can be determined through a blink comparator over multiple images." JWD On issues of magnitude. When the projected "Red" component and Planet X/Niburu light merges you will see a much brighter object than when it is split as it presently is. Your magnitude estimates at this time should include both to give an accurate magnitude. When the two components are taken separately it is low intensity because of the split light. The separate components are each above Mag 20 based on your comment above. Sarah McSilk says; "Please provide the orbital elements for this 'course understandable by human science', if it so exists. If it does, an ephemeris can be determined that will predict the positions on any day and time, to precise coordinates. Planets, asteroids and comets do not have 'flight paths'. If you have calculated orbital elements for your so-called object, provide them. Your claimed 'red and white personas' on the Dec 27 and 28th images are a full day off the projected coordinates. Havas is almost 4 days off, and pointed to a known star. JWD Orbital Elements: I am sure Astronomers are in the process of doing that. I have not claimed to be an Astronomer and will not take the time to learn this process, as others schooled in orbital elements can provide. If I have any definition it would be a General Scientist but I prefer to consider this work as Image processing and Analysis. On the coordinates for Dec 29 2002, I suggest you go back and review. RA 4.36743 Dec 12.12001 Dec 29, 2002 On "Flight paths" and "film" I skipped the terminology course, but you understand my meaning ;o) Sarah McSilk says; "Can't wait for the next set of images Dell. My 12 year old daughter is going to do the analysis, but nothing will be posted until Nancy states the Zetas have confirmed one your 'spots'. Why haven't the Zetas confirmed the spots you've already picked Dell? A whole week now, and they've been slient." JWD I'm going to leave my children and grandchildren out of this. I've answered this "official confirmation" query in another post, but this point sure has got your curiosity up ;o) I am looking forward to the next set of images as well. The continuing brightening of PX, the merging of the two light components, and the Moon swirls have definitely increased my curiosity. J.William Dell