Re: If the Earth's Rotation is Slowing, etc. - We've Got Problems!
In Article <PFhc7.38005$jc3.1903458@weber.videotron.net> Greg Neill wrote:
>> I've heard this theory that Earth's fatter waist (man-made
>> lakes or whatever) makes it turn more slowly, but at other
>> times it returns to a faster rotation (!?!). Where is Newton
>> in all of this, as WHY would it return to a faster rotation
>> after having slowed.
>
> Angular momentum. Ask a figure skater.
The Earth studied Newton in school and wants to abide by his formulas,
which state, presumably, that a smaller object can rotate faster than a
fat object? Newton was describing what he saw, a DESCRIPTION, not an
explanation. Our Moon rotates very very slowly, dark side forever away
from Earth. So if you put water on the Moon, gave it drag, it would
start to rotate more slowly and eventually we'd see the dark side?
Newton did NOT give cause and effect, dealing only with the static
"angular momentum" and the effect this had on the static situation. A
factor. A factor in hand. So remove the water from the surface of the
Earth, so it can, presumably, spin faster, per you. WHY would it start
spinning faster? Momentum is the static situation. Some body out in
space, trucking along, decides it should truck faster? For no reason?
In Article <9ksc9u$5kt$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Josh wrote:
>> Angular momentum. Ask a figure skater.
>
> BTW, your answer actually corroberates Nancy's claim that
> Newton can't explain anything, because "angular
> momentum" means the rotation stays the same, at least
> it doesn't involve /speeding up/ AFAIK.
The Zetas also have an explanation for spin, which is different than
rotation in a planet with a liquid core.
Spin is a phenomenon that occurs regularly in nature and
is frequently observed on Earth, from the large swirls that
hurricanes form to the small tornadoes in the middle of
water going down the drain. The fact that such a spin moves
in different directions when it is above or below the equator
gives evidence that spin is affected by factors outside of itself.
The phenomenon of spin is observable when the object in
motion is not constrained. Air and water are fluid, but
spinning tops or figure skaters on ice also demonstrate the
phenomena. The theoretical speed of a spin is fastest toward
the center of the spinning object, a factor easily noted by
comparing hurricane wind speeds with those at the center
of tornadoes. But why the difference?
Spin on the surface of the Earth reflects what is occurring in
the core of the Earth. If the Earth were not rotating, its core
moving to escape or pull toward other matter in the Solar
System and beyond, then spin would be affected only by the
various attractions or repulsion the spinning object itself
has to its immediate neighborhood. All objects on the face of
the Earth have these same influences from the core of the
Earth, but this is not evident due to lack of fluidity or lack of
motion. Spin in an object develops slowly, and is only evident
to man when accumulated. Thus, water in a water fall has spin,
but the water at the bottom of the fall cannot affect the water
at the top, so the spin is not compounded. Water in a drain
compounds the spin at the top by affecting the path of least
resistance for the water at the top of the drain, and thus the
little tornadoes in draining water.
Spin occurs faster when the spinning object is narrow as
there are fewer factors to counter the spin. A large air mass
such as is moving during a hurricane is spread out over a
larger area of the core of the Earth, and thus the impetus to
move with the core is countered by the fact that one of the
outer edges, the one on the pole side, is lined up over core
parts that are moving slower than the other outer edge, the
one on the equator side. Thus small tops can spin faster for
the given impetus than large tops, and figure skaters find
they can spin faster by reducing their overall size by drawing
their arms in and hugging themselves.
ZetaTalk, Spin
(http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s86.htm)