Re: Orbit Question
In Article <RaEa7.8094$z21.1101648@newsc.telia.net> Magnus Myborg wrote:
>> the dirty snowballs they call comets appear
>> to leave the solar system, picking up speed for NO
>> reason, after having pulled close in to the Sun.
>
> After passing perihelion, the comet (or any object)
> SLOWS DOWN continously. On the approach to the Sun
> they PICK UP speed.
>
>> If a planet or comet is close into the Sun and then
>> "decides" to increase its velocity and move away from
>> the gravitation giant is it visiting, WHAT is influencing
>
> The speed accumulated while approaching the Sun, is
> also what causes it to leave the Sun.
Hasn't the Hubble, some years ago, discounted this? Repeating comet
orbits are not the neat eliptical orbits assumed in the past, but more
fan shaped. Maybe the Hubble didn't spend enough time in school,
studying Newton's laws. Tisk.
Where orbits are snug about their center of gravity,
there is little contradiction between these and what
mankind calls their laws of gravity and motion.
These are not laws, of course, but elaborate
descriptions of what they observe. The flaws in the
laws, however, were always present. If gravity
diminishes with distance, but distance is attained
with speed, then an object in a snug elliptical orbit
seems to logically be adhering to the laws of gravity
and motion. Speed up during the approach, sling past,
and the speed carries the body outward where the
diminishing gravity pull slows the body down so that
its curve sidewards takes predominance. The theory
fit what man observed, and thus was not questioned
until his powers of observation increased. Tiny
comets, seen by man in the past only when they gave
their brilliant displays while going around the Sun,
have only recently been observed in great detail
during this passage.
Repeating comets are not slinging past, as in a
passing body. They are in orbit, doing the better
part of a circle about the Sun. Unlike the planets,
whose center of gravity is just that, at the center,
the comet does not behave as though the Sun is its
center of gravity. The elliptical orbit of planets
is such that if one were to examine the distance
from the Sun, the difference at any given point
would be slight. It is more circular than not.
Comets, however, are at the other extreme. They
appear to be a fan, rather than an eye. For the laws
of gravity and motion to fit, the comet must be
increasing its speed as it leaves the Sun, thus
explaining its increasing distance. However, careful
studies have shown this not to be the case. The
comet is going its fastest when closest to the Sun,
and has slowed down when it begins to leave what
is assumed to be its gravitational master. The
slowing precedes the exit, thus throwing the smug
assumptions of man into consternation.
In addition, the distance comets travel outward,
and the curvature of their exit are now able to be
examined where in the past they were an unknown.
They go essentially straight away, not the curve
anticipated. Thus the distance from the Sun
wherein they would have to complete an elliptical
curve is extreme, challenging the laws of gravity
and motion. The distance where the elliptical
curve would reinstate is too far, and the curve
during the straight away too slight. Rather than
deal with this new information, the majority of
scientists prefer their comfort factor over new
knowledge. Change is resisted, and for many the
Earth is still flat.
ZetaTalk, Dark Ages
(http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s61.htm)
Graphic at Repeating Comets
(http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s50.htm)