Lou Gentile Show (Part 3)
July 23, 2004
Nancy only taped her side of the Interview.
A brief paraphrase of the question or comment made by Lou has been inserted.
The first half of the Interview was discussing the content of the web page prepared for the show, content at the link Lou!
This is a long interview, on more than one web page, continuing links at to next page bottom.

LOU posing QUESTION: things are normal in the skies, constellations, Sun location, etc., according to 20 year old, 40 year old, documentation.

NANCY: Well that’s strange because I must have a different sky than these people. I have Skymap, and that equates to 20 year old, 40 year old, bla bla bla. People go out and say ‘where’s the Moon’, which mostly in its orbit but sometimes its way too far North, or way too far South, and I have observed that. I have observed Ursa Major at least twice, and drawn pictures, run up Skymap, and drawn Ursa Major and Polaris, where we saw it, because I’m on an absolute N/S grid. Run into Mapquest, and run up my town, and I have this in my Orbits section, the map is absolutely dead N/S. I’m on the block that forms the quarter, the 40 acre quarter, which as anyone who lives in the Midwest knows, they loved the N/S direction and that’s they way they surveyed all the platland. So I know these streets run N/S. And its way off, its way high in the dome, not directly overhead about at about 80° up there, not down there on the horizon. Ursa Major is an in the dome, wintertime, constellation. So they are not right. Here again we’re into butter/margarine. People who say that are either not looking, or are deliberately paid to say that. If you want to maintain a cover-up, you just have a crew of people saying the opposite of what the truth is. And most people buy that. Most people are not going to run out in the middle of the night, check the constellations, buy Skymap, run up the drawings and say ‘oh, its way off!’. People who do that say ‘oh my gosh, its off!’, but most people don’t have the time or energy for that and just don’t do it. So if there’s an argument and people are saying ‘she’s nuts, that’s not the case, everything is normal’, then they say ‘well, I don’t know, I don’t know what to believe, people are saying this, and then they're saying that’. It’s a butter/margarine thing. I suggest that people actually go and look. Do that. I’m not afraid to say that because that’s where the proof of the pudding lies. You do your own checking. Get a planetarium program like Skymap, an old Almanac, well, you have to do that to see the constellations. Moonrise, moonset, one of the Signs of the Times was that two different sites gave moonrise, moonset times for Calgary, Canada that was off by an hour. The Navy said one thing, and another said something else. You know, things are not right, and they’re increasingly unraveling for the astute you does their own checking. End of rant.

LOU posing QUESTION: GoTo scopes work perfectly.

NANCY: Well, here again we have butter and margarine, because people will say that, and they say it very angrily, that everything is fine. The people that say that are the same people who say the weather is normal, the quakes have not increased at all, despite the fact that quakes will actually be in the newspaper and then not appear on the USGS sites, or appear later as in ‘oops, I guess AP reported on it so maybe we better include it in the database’. They claim there’s no quake cover-up, that the weather is normal, and they always make these statements. And they’re out there saying GoTo scopes work perfectly, and then we have these folks who post and say ‘well mine is not working, and I’ve talked to dozens of people who also find their GoTo scopes not working.’ Well, to some degree, in the first place, you manually align a GoTo scope. You point it at Polaris, you manually align it, and if it gets, and you say ‘now from Polaris I want you to find bla bla bla’ from my location. If it doesn’t work, you manually tweak it. You know, the scope is trying to zip over and you say ‘all right, I see that star, in my scope’, maybe its off a little bit, so you can manually set them and you do manually set them to start with. And in addition, many people will get online and download new data for the database that scope is using and that new data can have been tweaked to account for our tilt and lean. So this has recently come out on the message board. These scopes do get refreshed with updated data by a computer, and in that case, it would work, because the updated data, like the Navy moonrise and moonset times, or sunrise and sunset times, can be tweaked to match what’s actually happening now, as part of the cover-up. So, I don’t know, but I do know its a butter/margarine argument because people are saying both things, but the people that are adamantly saying GoTo scopes work are the same people that are debunking the weather is different, the weather is wild, the quakes are being altered, the quakes are not being recorded, they’re debunking those things too.

LOU posing QUESTION: when will you admit that ZetaTalk is wrong. If the Sun moves south as we go into Fall, will you admit it then? What will it take.

NANCY: Well I have a question for these people. When the Sun rises in the West, as many prophecies have said, or, you know, as it’s currently moving too far to the North after the Solstice, in Japan as captured by photos, and as reported in Europe and Ontario, will these people admit that something is not right? The Sun overhead by 15-20° too high, the Ecliptic too far to the North and the Sun arc way too high, is something that can be measured by anybody who looks at a telephone pole and does a triangle from the top of the pole to the shadow on the ground, how many feet, how high is that pole, click click, you’ve got whether its a 60° or 80° or 45° and that’s very easy to do. I’ve done this hundreds of times, I constantly check. It is not normal. Its too high, and for them to say that everything is fine, that the Sun arc to be that far off, that far North, that far high, what are they looking at? They’re not looking. These people. There’s another category besides a dozen people or so who are paid debunkers who adamantly go out there and say ‘everything’s normal’.

There’s another group of people, and its a group of people who are fearful, you know, of what the ZetaTalk message is. It’s saying ‘big changes’, you know, tidal waves coming in on the coast, anyone who’s living in coastal cities says ‘oh, my house, under water’, you know, ‘what am I going to do, I don’t know how to grwo gardens, I don’t know how to kick over a dead log and eat bugs, I don’t know how to eat weeds, what am I going to do?’, so they say ‘I don’t want to think about that’. Denial is a very very common reaction to really scary news. The Zetas have said that even when the Earth has stopped rotating or something like the Sun coming up in the West happens, there will be people that are saying ‘nothing is wrong, everything is fine, what about Johnny’s Birthday party next Tuesday, I’ll bake a cake’, or ‘I’ve got to go to my job now’ because the routine comforts and they just can’t deal with it so it’s not happening. You can tell a cancer patient they have cancer, some will say ‘well I need to talk to all my loved ones and settle my affairs’, and others will say ‘I do not have cancer, I’m fine, that's not a growth, just because I can’t get into my pants and its as big as a basketball sticking out of my side, that’s not cancer, I just gained a little weight’. In other words, denial. Women and men who are being cuckolded, the spouse is having an affair, lipstick on the collar, it’s not there, they won’t see it. So we have a lot of people who are very angry because they want to deny.

I always say, ‘well, if nothings happening, you’ve got nothing to worry about’. If you don’t think ZetaTalk is giving you any information, then don’t read it. I’m not spamming you, I’m not shoving it down your throat. But you know, they just attack me, I get email like you do, like you wouldn’t believe, vicious, cause they’re scared. And if you get in front of a frightened animal, they’ll claw their way through you. Fear is hostile. So you’ve got to consider that some of these people who say everything is normal, they’re just really scared.

LOU posing QUESTION: what information would convince you that the Zetas are not correct.

NANCY: Well, I've got to turn this around again. I keep seeing that they're not incorrect. They in 1995 said the weather would be doing just what its doing. They said on a linear increase, the deluge and drought would switch around. New Jersey was suffering under a drought, and now it had 5 dams break, 12 inches falling in an hour. They had precisely, they were the only ones in 1995 that described the weather, and they said the quakes would increase and the coverup would increase, which they did, the frequency and the Richter size, that happened. They said increasing albinism in wildlife would happen. They describe the solar N/S of the Sun as statis, and that absolutely flies in the face of what NASA always said, they said it flips every 11 years, by the end of the Year 2000 they said 'oh, it flipped, because the sunspots blipped around' and this assertion of theirs that the Sun's magnetic field reversed every 11 years was based on visual appearance of solar flares blopping around. And guess what, their own Ulysses prove went around on August 2001 and said 'oh, we're finding that the Sun's fields are the same place they were in 1994'. So NASA said 'uh, uh, maybe they have two S Poles or two N Poles' but you don't hear that NASA is wrong about the 11 year cycle. The Zetas have been so remarkably accurate. And the only thing they have failed on, the only thing, is the date of 2003, shortly after May 15, 2003, which they deliberately said was a White Lie, they said it was a White Lie. People have said, 'even when they lie, they tell the truth about it'.

There's been something that, since 1995, has been thrown at ZetaTalk, saying 'hah, the accuracy track record', and I say 'hey, find something they said that is wrong'. People go combing through this huge web site, and they come up with things like 'you said that Gore was going to win the election'. Well, he did. And that type of thing. Or this woman who disappeared in Washington and was then found dead in some park, you know, the Zetas said she was in Mexico with amnesia. Well, they went through that park with dogs and teams of boy scouts and never found anything, and then a year later they find her body just a few feet off a trail. Everybody knows it was planted there. We don't know if she was in Mexico. This is what they are coming up with as inaccuracies in 1,000 pages filled with predictions. The predictions are on target. So I would again turn this around. Tell me why I shouldn't believe in ZetaTalk, when what I see in the constellations, the outflow of their predictions, and the accuracy, its astonishing. I am honored to be associated with that presents that kind of information with that kind of accuracy. And we're back to butter and margarine if they say everything is normal.

LOU posing QUESTION: how can you say the live seismos are correct but the quakes are not being updated correctly, why is one OK but the other not. Why would the archive data be changed, but not the real time data?

NANCY: The live seismos, from what I can see, have not been altered. Sometimes they are. We had an example, if you take the Quakes link on my home page, there was a sitatution once where I think they were going to change this. Houston, which is Hockley TX, was the only one that dumbed down their live seismos. Everybody else in the world didn't, and it was so obvious. So I think they may be having trouble with this because the sats, the geosynchronous satellites, pick this data up and it may be too difficult to doctor, so they just let it flow. And I made quite an argument of this over the last couple of months, saying 'why do these Global Quakes happen on what I call the sweep sets', patterns, every 8 days and then 2 days later. It's not because there was an earthquake and the whole globe shuttered, because we have earthquakes on off days, when there aren't Global Quakes, and that doesn't happen. And these Global Quakes, where everything turns black and the whole globe goes 'zzzzzhhhzzz', only started happening about 15 months ago, March of 2003. So, I think it's probably difficult for them, and because there are no archives for people to go into, its debatable, in other words, they can say 'well, it happens because of this or because of that', and how many people can sit there and make copies of the Global Quakes day after day after day, and verify for themselves. People go to work, they have busy lives, and because there are no archives, nothing can be verified. I have a large amount of information on when these Global Quakes happen, and the 12 hour wobble is very significant. Why would it be that you have something going on the seismograph where something is going 'whooooo whooo whooo' and then 'hooo hooo hooo' on the other 12 hours, just on the Face and the Dark side between 0:00 UTC and 12:00 UTC, 12:00 UTC being when the Atlantic Rift faces the Sun and Planet X. Very distinct patterns. So I hope this answers the question. Quake databases saying 'this Richter at this place', you have an archive, so therefore, they are very careful. They don't want people running statistics up on that data in those archives. Live siesmographs do not have an archive, and therefore, are considered less threatening to the coverup.

LOU posing QUESTION: why can't the Zetas even say what year Planet X will cause the pole shift.

NANCY: They're doing this it's the lesser of evils. If martial law was to be called, and a firm date was to be stated, then you might have, you know what happened at Abu Graib prison, where innocents, children, now we're hearing accusations where sodomized to terrify their parents, imagine people being herded into work camps, the hale selected out and the weak systematically starved, like what's going on in sub-Sahara Africa, in those political arguments, they are raping and starving the people they want to eliminate, looting. Martial law, Indonesia has a lot of that, East Timor, they just went in and shot people, and abused them. This would happen if a firm date were known by people who are saying 'well, we can't feed everyone, we've got to get rid of the useless eaters, and select out the hale and intimidate them, grab their kids and threaten to torture their kids if they don't cooperate'. That's a horror that's going to affect hundreds of millions, if not billions of people, if a firm date is known by people who would muscle the common man. Now if they don't have a firm date, and they don't really have a feeling for what's going to happen, when, Martial Law like that can't be imposed and maintained for very long because, like the Iraq war, it disolved and became a disaster, because the timing was off. If we were just going into Iraq now, and the pole shift were to happen like later this year, say, they would be sitting on the oil fields and everything would be fine. But because it was done at least a year early, based on the Zetas saying 'oh, 2003!' they went into Iraq early, and any oil fields grabbed, which in my opinion is what the Iraq war was about, would have succeeded. But it dissolved because it eroded over this last year, became a disaster. So, the Zetas are playing a chess game, they're dancing around with the elite or establishment or those people who would like to muscle the comon man into anything but a democracy, and that's a very large worry. And that includes you, Lou, that includes everybody who's listening to this show. You people could be put into a labor camp. You people could be forced to shelter-in-place, in spite of the fact that the big waves are going to come and drown you, you could be forced to stay in your homes. New Jersey, in a code Red, is going to refuse to let people go out of their homes. New Jersey is a river delta, they're going to be the first place that's under water as the Atlantic starts sloshing. This is serious business folks, you have to be allowed to go to safety if you and your little children are determined to live. If you want to die, fine, but think of the people with small children who want to live, and we're talking about you and you and you. So the Zetas are doing this for you. And not giving a firm date is deliberately to trip up those people who do not have your welfare in mind.

LOU: So you're saying New Jersey would be under water during the pole shift?

NANCY: They're pretty low land, yeah. I think that they would be affected by the sloshing very badly. They're just river delta land. Look at Florida, oooh. Soggy, wet, what hill do you run to there. You have to get up into the Appalachians. It's very scary to hear, I think it was at the last code Orange, that if they were to go to code Red they would order people to stay in their homes. Wow!

LOU: Nancy, I want to thank you very much for being on the show. I didn't get to all the rest of these questions, so I'll save them for next time. It's a pleasure as it always is. People can visit your web site at zetatalk.com. Is that book still available?

NANCY: Yeah, you can still order the book. The basic ZetaTalk and the description of the pole shift is still accurate. Ignore all date related information, you know, 'it's going to happen shortly after May 15, 2003'. Other than that, it's something you can carry with you when the Internet goes down, which it will, and its still relevant.