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Lou Gentile Show
March 29, 2005
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LOU: [Welcome back Nancy]

NANCY: Hey. Good to be back. How are you and how’s that little girl?

LOU: [My daughter? She’s fine.]

NANCY: Great. I have some interesting news for you today. I’m discussing the Moon and its orbit, which is something people have commented about during the past year, taking photos of it, and people who don’t even know about Planet X, or have never heard of ZetaTalk, have posted conversations on message boards discussing this, alarmed about it. Saying that their grandmothers, an 86 year old grandmother who’s lived in the same house and is saying ‘the moon has never been over there, never in my lifetime’, and ‘what is it doing?’. Many people notice this and its not just people who are looking for these abnormalities. They don’t know where to go with this information, and in fact in our local neighborhood here there have been people who have been talking about it, I hear by the grapevine, just solid farmer types, ‘what’s the Moon doing over there, it’s wrong’.

What is it that the Moon is doing that is wrong? Well, for one thing, it has an orbit that it tilting like a hat tipped too far up over one ear and too far down below the other and it should be more evenly spaced across the ears. About a year ago I started getting these reports or discovering these reports. One person did a very thorough research about the face migrating. The face of the Man in the Moon should in fact not vary that much through the night. If you’re in a particular latitude and you watch it rise in the East and move over to the West, you should see the face twist a little bit only about, like from 3:30 to 4:00 on the clock, or 3:00 to 3:30. 7°, 7 minutes, that should be the degree of twist in the face from the same latitude. This person said it appears to be twisting 45° and the resulting, or where it went to, would put him somewhere near the Equator but he lived in Spokane, Washington. And he had done research on what it’s supposed to look like from his latitude and what he was familiar with seeing as the face of the Man on the Moon.

So suddenly, that woke me up when I saw that, because a difference in latitude would mean an orbit at odds with the Earth. That would make sense, that you could actually compute this. So, the twisting of the face is one symptom of this. Another, that most people notice, is that twice a month, the Moon is either too far to the North or too far to the South. And this has been consistent over this past year since these reports around March 7, 2004 started. One of them is that when it’s moving from a full Moon, when it’s in a full Moon and a new Moon it’s like over the ears, or where you would expect it to be if the hat was not tilting. In any case, it’s about where it should be. But when its moving away from t full Moon, or waning, or waxing to a full Moon after it’s a new Moon, it’s either too far North or too far South. Now I actually have that, folks, on my web site, there’s a page that you can click on ‘Lou!’ on the right hand side of my web site, underneath the ZetaTalk banner, is a special page for this monthly review. And in there, I detail, and I link to these various reports.

As people have noted, on March of last year they were reporting 45° the face rotated. By July it was 60°, and by last September it was 95°. Somebody in the Netherlands took some photos recently showing the progress of the face in only 3 hours and it torqued 30°, not 7° and 7 minutes, but 30°. And he overlaid where it was to start with and 3 hours later what it was at that point, and did outlines and overlaid them and you can clearly see the movement. But we have many examples of photos on the web site of this. So, the orbit twisted, and the face moving, and another description that they talk about is being too far out, zooming away from the Earth, and then later coming too close. Like the orbit is not almost circular around the globe, but zooming way too far out and then coming too close. People have reported seeing that and being alarmed.

Normally, the Moon facts are not just the face rotating 7° 7 minutes, but normally the Moon almost exactly stays on the Ecliptic. In other words, during the day, if it’s visible when you can see the Sun also, the Moon will appear in the sky pretty close to the path the Sun is taking. Only with about a 5 degree offset. If we didn’t have that 5 degree offset, we would have a lot more eclipses of the Sun against the Moon, where the Moon would disappear, but because of that 5 degree offset, we get sunlight on the Moon pretty regularly, almost uniformly. But it’s more than 5° offset, and you can compute this in planetarium programs such as Skymap which are freeware of shareware on the web. Pull it down, and where you see the Moon when it’s not a new Moon and it’s not a full Moon but in between times, too far North or too far South, make note of that Azimuth, which is 360 round the horizon, where that would be where North is 0 or 360, and South is 180. Make note of that Azimuth, and go into a planetarium program, and just see if it matches.

We have had it as far as 30° off, too far North, shining in a window which absolutely puts it 20-30° too far North, and I have seen it so far South I thought it was a street lamp at first, through the trees. It just is jaw dropping. And the Zetas recently were asked to speak to this issue and they wrote a ZetaTalk piece called Moon Dance explaining why is the Moon so off kilter. It’s actually it’s normal 5° off the Ecliptic, but more accentuated, and they said it’s avoiding the fast lane. We have what they have described, Planet X coming between the Sun and the Earth and holding us in an eddy turmoil of particle flows so they can’t move, so therefore it’s very crowded at the Ecliptic and the Moon is just frankly trying to avoid the fast lane by going too high up, too low down, but other than that it’s stuck in the fast lane, but that’s what it’s doing.

So, interestingly enough, something else emerged with Jupiter. And this happened just March 21 or so. Some amateur astronomers, somebody in Washington state, who is a regular nighttime watcher and takes a look at Jupiter, its Moons around Jupiter which you can see if you have a scope, I’m not sure if you can use binoculars, but certainly with a scope, and said ‘holy cow, Jupiter’s Moons are tilted at an extreme'. They’re normally at the 9 o’clock and 3 o’clock positions, which would be a hat across the ears. You know, 9 o’clock and 3 o’clock are a horizontal line across the face. But now, it’s at the 7 o’clock and 1 o’clock. There they are! And if you look closely at the lines of Jupiter, you can see that Jupiter itself is tilting like this. What’s more, Saturn appears to be tilted in the same manner. Now these planets are both behind us, in other words, you see them in the nighttime sky. There’s the Sun, then coming out there’s Planet X, then there’s the poor trapped Earth, and way out there behind Earth are Jupiter and Saturn.

So what’s causing that to tilt that way? You know, I have an elementary solar system book, for dummies. It doesn’t say ‘Solar System for Dummies’ but that’s more or less what it is. And I looked up Jupiter to see if it might describe where it’s moons would be, and it not only described it, it showed a picture, pretty darn close to that hat straight across the ears, the horizontal line, the 9 o’clock and 3 o’clock as he said. So that is what we should be seeing. Someone in France, in response, because these are international discussions that go on in the message boards, managed to take a picture of it. And the guy in Washington said ‘that’s it, that’s what I saw’. And I have that on this review page that I prepared for tonight, Lou. Now, the interesting thing about this, is there is an explanation, a ZetaTalk explanation from way back in 2001, as to why these gaseous planets, Jupiter and Saturn would be tilting like this.

We had a lovely discussion, during the sci.astro debates in 2001, which were mostly (I went into sci.astro and debated 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001), and mostly it’s ‘yuck yuck, she’s a nut case’. That type of thing. But we got a lot of excellent discussions going, talked about Tunguska, and whether it was a meteor or whether it was methane gas explosion, debated that. And one of the things that was discussed, somebody brought up magnetic fields in the solar system, and why the planets lean the way they do. For instance, Mercury and Earth have a magnetic field that aligns the same, we have the same kind of tip, the North and South poles point in the same direction, which happens to be pretty much what the Sun is doing also. And Pluto is pretty close to that. But the gaseous planets like Jupiter and Saturn are upside down. Their South poles are up, and their North poles are down. Now why would this be?

Nobody had a clue. And the Zetas were saying that the Sun’s magnetic field dominates the solar system, reaches way out there, and is what all the other planets are adjusting to in some way or another. And they said, that as a gaseous planet which have no magnetic field themselves, but that are just acting as a conduit. So they have the magnetic flow line around the Sun, comes out of the North Pole, loops high, and comes zooming down through the gaseous planet, from up to down on its way to the South Pole of the Sun, just a conduit. And so, who can say if that’s right or wrong, but that’s what the Zetas said, and they are upside down with their flow of magnetic particles according to probes which have gone by them. Well, one of the things that the Zetas have said in the last few months, and in the new ZetaTalk, is the 270° roll of Planet X, as it came around the South Pole of the Sun, and it had its North Pole glued to the Sun’s South Pole. As it approaches the midpoint of the Sun, it’s going to like adjust so as it can go above the Ecliptic where it has to align with flow lines that are going out of the North Pole. So it’s going to want to point its South Pole at the Sun. It switches around in place, turning, and as it does so, it’s going to point its North Pole at us.

I realized recently that one of the reasons we haven’t had quite as much debris and red dust as we did in 2003, was because a red dust cloud would blow away from the magnetic North Pole because that’s the hose of magnetic particles. In other words, the tail of Planet X has been blown toward the Sun recently. But as it turns, and turns in place to point its North Pole toward us, we’re going to get that red dust tail, and we’re going to get a lot more debris and a lot more visibility of this dust tail, as the North Pole swings round. Recently we started to get photos that are capturing this type of activity, and in the right place, to the right hand side as you look toward the Sun in the Northern Hemisphere. And I had an example of somebody in Nevada who caught what I would describe as a blob. And I’m sure it’s not Planet X itself, it’s one of the components of the tail or a grouping of moons that’s called a moon swirl which focuses light and tunnels it down the swirl so that it becomes like a dim laser or flashlight aimed toward the Earth.

And it looks very close to some we caught in the middle, and toward the Fall, of 2003. And I have these examples on that page, folks, that monthly summary page which really must be seen to be appreciated. I also have links to lens flares and sundog examples, so that you can compare those examples and say ‘that’s a sundog in my opinion’, or ‘that’s a lens flare in my opinion’, and actually make an intellectual decision. They don’t look like either to me, nor do they look like either to most of the people who look at them. Now, what does this mean, for Jupiter, tilting? Well, the leaning that Jupiter is talking as we look out into the night sky, it’s tilting it’s South Pole, which is just a funnel for magnetic particles, in the direction that Planet X’s migrating North Pole would be turning in. In other words, it’s accepting, in its South Pole which it has pointing up, magnetic particles coming from the Sun, and magnetic particles now coming from Planet X, from that direction, from the left, as we look out into the night sky, because it’s to the right as we look at the Sun, that the tail is blowing.

And that precisely fits with what the Zetas said was going to happen with the North Pole of Planet X as it went into the 270° roll. It precisely fits what the Zetas described for these gaseous planets who are in opposition, in other words they have their South Poles up instead of down. And it connects with the photos. It connects with what people are seeing going on in Jupiter, what people are seeing in the moon swirls that they’re capturing, and it also means that something is in process. Because this matter of Jupiter just leap up now on March 21. So this is a progressive something going on, as the 8.7 down there in Indonesia might clue one to understand. So I’m going to take a break here and have a sip of something liquid here, Lou, and let you get a word in edgewise.

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